Obtaining technical conditions for connecting electricity from 15 kW is real!
Having purchased a plot of land in the Tver region for development, you are faced with a problem - lack of electricity. Yes, earlier, when you were bargaining with its previous owner, the presence of light was unimportant, since the price suited you quite well, however, time sets priorities in its own way. Construction without electricity is difficult.
In which direction to move and where to start, read on.
Electricity registration
Connecting electricity to a private home begins first of all with drawing up the appropriate technical conditions. This documentation is managed by the local power grid organization, and in particular by its department such as the CSC (public service center).
Documents required to obtain technical documentation for a land plot in the Tver region as a whole:
- — passport and its copy with the registration page;
- - certificate of land;
- - certificate for the house or a copy thereof;
- — site plan (or a copy thereof);
- — an application to the CSC for connecting electricity to a country house (in two copies - for yourself and for the organization).
Electricity networks do not have the right to refuse to complete the relevant documentation. By law, the electric network must consider your application for no more than 30 days; after this period, an agreement must already be concluded between you and this organization with the issuance of technical specifications.
Connecting electricity to the site
Advice from lawyers:
1. I bought a plot in SNT, they demand 80 thousand for connecting to electricity. Are they right?
1.1. Ask to provide you with the OSS protocol, where the amount for connecting to electricity and the estimate for this service were established.
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2. After connecting electricity to the site in the SNT (member of the partnership) and sealing, where is a note about putting the meter into operation and that the device was sealed in the gardener’s book, or is it necessary to draw up a separate document?
2.1. Hello. Yes, it needs to be compiled.
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3. When connecting electricity to a site in the SNT, is it necessary for a person who is a member to enter into an agreement with the SNT? How to apply for connection? Government Decree No. 861 talks more and more about individuals...
3.1. Artem, SNT is not an energy supply organization. SNT itself enters into an agreement with Energosbyt. You need, as a member of SNT, to regularly pay for the use of electricity according to the meter. In SNT, each owner has an agreement directly with Energosbyt.
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3.2. Thank you very much! In the case of unscrupulous management, you have to look for any opportunities to hedge your bets...
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4. Connecting the site in SNT to electricity. The chairman has been denied by the supplying organization to connect the entire SNT for the past two years. Can I connect as an individual? face? (The transformer and poles do not belong to the utility, but to the energy supply organization)
4.1. Hello! If the CIS power grid is not connected to the energy supply organization, then you will not be able to connect to it individually. The fact is that paragraph 34 of the Basic Provisions for the Functioning of Retail Electricity Markets, approved by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 442 dated May 4, 2012, contains a list of documents required for individual connection. Among these documents there is a document confirming that the individual’s house is already connected to the electrical network within the CIS and that the electrical network and the electricity meter are in working order. This document should be issued by the CIS, but since the partnership is not connected to the power grid, it will not be able to issue it.
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5. The chairman of the SNT does not give a power of attorney to connect the garden plot to electricity, he demands money. I am not a member of the partnership.
5.1. What kind of power of attorney are we talking about? Sincerely.
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5.2. If you want to use the services of SNT, then you need to pay for them, possibly under an agreement. It is not necessary to be a member of the SNT. But the specifics of Russian reality often make such SNT-non-member SNT relations close to combat. We need to take this into account and build communications that are optimal for realities.
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6. I bought a plot of land in SNT more than 15 years ago and registered ownership. But I didn’t fill out a membership book and didn’t pay membership fees. Now the chairman is demanding payment of 100 thousand rubles for connecting to gas, electricity and water. Is this legal?
6.1. Request documentary support for the requirements. In addition, you can enter into contracts directly with organizations providing gas, water and electricity. If you are the owner of the site, you are not required to become a member of SNT and pay membership fees.
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6.2. Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated December 27, 2004 N 861 (as amended on April 30, 2020) “On approval of the Rules for non-discriminatory access to services for the transmission of electrical energy and the provision of these services, the Rules for the technological connection of power receiving devices of electrical energy consumers, electrical energy production facilities, as well as electric grid facilities belonging to grid organizations and other persons, to electric grids” 2 (2). These Rules apply to cases of annexation of real estate belonging to citizens engaged in gardening or vegetable farming on land plots located within the boundaries of the gardening or vegetable farming territory, and to other legal holders of real estate located within the boundaries of the gardening or vegetable farming territory, the maximum capacity of which changes. FROM THE FOREGOING IT FOLLOWS that if you have an individual electricity supply contract, you are NOT obligated to bear the costs of maintaining the partnership’s electrical networks.
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7. We bought a plot of land in SNT, we need to connect electricity, a pole at the border of the plot. The chairman demands payment of arrears of membership fees for the previous owners and 60,000 for the connection itself; if payment of membership fees is refused, he refuses to connect to electricity at all. According to the purchase and sale agreement, we have a plot without debts. Does the chairman have the right to demand this money from us (both contributions and the connection itself), how legal is this?
7.1. It has. But you have the right not to pay. A claim in court for an obligation to connect.
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7.2. All powers to connect electricity belong to the management of SNT. No supervisory authorities or organizations are authorized to interfere with its activities. In practice, you either pay and connect or without electricity. Although you can directly contact Lenenergo.
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8. Snt in Kolomna district, no electricity. The nearest electrified civilization is 5 km away. The chairman claims that it is possible to extend electricity to our SNT only at the expense of the members of the SNT itself (there are not many of us, there are plenty of plots, they were provided in the 90s, but less than half were developed) and it is obvious that on our own, 5 km of wire with poles and a transformer for We can't handle the snt. What should I do? In general, what is the procedure for connecting the SNT to the power grid?
8.1. This issue is discussed in sufficient detail, with the corresponding layouts, for example, at this address: More >>>
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9. I own a plot of land on which part of a residential building stands and it is connected to electrical networks, but now a new house has been built on the same plot of land. Electrical connection required. But power grids say only more power is possible. This option does not suit us, since we live in an old house and the consumption is not small. What can be done to achieve a new connection to a 15 kW capital building?
9.1. Provide them with documents on the new home ownership and land plot, demand that they provide technical conditions, they will be refused, and then it can be challenged in court.
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10. The deadline for connecting electricity to the site has passed, the power grid does not give an exact answer, where to turn?
10.1. Hello. Submit a written complaint to the energy sales office, as the reason for the refusal must be justified. If they don’t connect, then file a complaint with the prosecutor’s office. Good luck. IN.
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11. The contract for connecting electricity to the site has already expired, but we are told that it is not possible. They say we don't refuse. The deadline expired on December 7. A house is being built on the site using a gas generator. For which we are charged for each day of use. What to do in such a situation?
11.1. Oleg, file a claim against those with whom you have an agreement to recover material damage for each day of delay in connecting electricity from December 7, 2020 in the form of payment for the use of a gas generator.
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12. Please tell me, does the chairman of the association have the right to set his own price for connecting electricity to the site?
12.1. All this is decided and adopted at the general meeting by members of the SNT.
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12.2. The cost of connection is approved at the general meeting of SNT.
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13. At our dacha, we collected 50,000 rubles for connecting electricity from each site; we paid for the materials and services of installers in total about 110,000 rubles. Now we pay for electricity 5 rubles 16 kopecks per day, 2 rubles 89 kopecks at night and 13% to the chairman. How to get benefits and enter into a direct contract with NESK?
13.1. There is no benefit for DNT, since you use the benefit at your place of residence in an apartment. 50,000 rubles each. you paid according to the decision of the general meeting, and it must be fulfilled.
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14. TSN has electric networks as joint shared ownership, the networks were built using targeted contributions, 13 years ago a member of the partnership left membership - we didn’t have electricity then and connected to the networks of a neighboring verse, the support is located 10 meters from the site, now we have received a demand from this non-member about connecting his garden house with a three-phase line - 100 meters to our nearest support.
14.1. If this cable line is your TSN, then he cannot demand this, but can only ask. You can set connection conditions. Good luck.
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15. We received a site for the placement of an NTO (pavilion - car wash). We are located in Nizhny Novgorod. We are planning to supply 20-25 kW of electricity, we would like to connect to the sewerage system that runs nearby (only for the bathroom), and also connect to the central water. Sewage waste - a contract for removal with the company (pumping with suction pumps). How much will it cost to establish a clear procedure for our actions (with links to our local authorities) to obtain the necessary permits and approvals?
15.1. We need to come to an agreement. In principle, the procedure there is quite simple.
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16. I started building a private house in a cottage community within the city (city registration). I wanted to connect electricity to my site. The management company (MC) of our village asked for 380,000 rubles. for connecting electricity. The city electric network company said that they had entered into an agreement with this management company to connect residents in this village under construction. Is this legal? I did not enter into an agreement with the management company.
16.1. Do you have land for individual housing construction or is it a gardening partnership (cooperative)? if individual housing construction, then the connection is direct from the power grid, and not through the management company and the price is about 500 rubles.
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16.2. Good afternoon. It is necessary to contact the city power grid with an application to connect the house to the power grid. To your application, you will be provided with a written response, which will indicate the reason why they are sending you with these questions to the Criminal Code (link to the contract). If you are denied connection with an explanation of the right to appeal to the Criminal Code, you must contact the Criminal Code with a similar statement. In the application, indicate that you are asking to connect and, if this service is paid, indicate what the connection amount consists of (provide a calculation) with links to regulatory documents approving these tariffs. After receiving the above documents, familiarize yourself with the validity and legality of the requirements put forward. In case of illegal inflating of tariffs, file a complaint with the prosecutor's office and the housing inspectorate, as well as with the court (depending on the information provided in the responses to your applications). If you have any other questions, write, I will try to answer them.
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17. In SNT, I bought a plot of 8 acres. Split it hit! When purchasing a plot, there were no communications on the plot, including electricity! I contacted the chairman for an electricity connection! He says: I’ll give electricity to one area, I’ll give it to another, but for 100,000 rubles, according to the decision of the meeting! Is the chairman acting legally?
17.1. — Hello dear site visitor! We haven’t read the documents on SNT, so we can’t answer, and since you now have 2 plots, I can’t rule it out, it’s possible that the requirement is legal. Good luck to you and all the best, with respect, lawyer Legostaeva A.V.
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18. I bought a plot of land and the owner kept the roads to it. To connect to electricity along his roads, he asks to pay 350 thousand for a permit. What are my chances in court to obtain permission to connect via roads?
18.1. Hello. With the participation of a competent lawyer in court, there is every chance. For more detailed advice or preparation of documents, I recommend contacting any website lawyer of your choice by personal message or using the contact information specified in the profile of the relevant lawyer. Beware of scammers who may write you a personal message asking for your phone number, or call you or write you a personal message offering services and/or an invitation to a supposedly “free” consultation!
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19. Can I enter into a direct agreement with Mosenergosbyt and connect electricity to a site in SNT if I am a member of SNT. Now the chairman is demanding 750,000 rubles from me for connecting to the SNT network. I have a letter from Mosenergo that 15 kW of power has been allocated to my site.
19.1. If there is such an opportunity, then enter into a direct contract with Mosenergo, you have every right to do so.
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20. I bought a plot without electricity, it is owned. I wanted to connect to city electricity, but according to the new law, the chairman himself must submit an application on my behalf to the fuel and energy complex. I came to the chairman and said everything, and she said to write a statement to their society, that they would consider it and perhaps refuse. I am not a member of SNT, they impose their connection line on me for 65,000. What should I do and how to write the correct application. Thank you.
20.1. If the line belongs to SNT or private networks, then no one will connect you without paying the required amount.
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Owned plot. I want to connect electricity. SNT refuses to connect.
I bought a plot of land in SNT, I want to install electricity to the plot, the chairman says,
I purchased a plot of land in SNT. No buildings. The question arose about connecting to electricity.
I am a member of SNT, the house on the site is designed as residential and is intended for year-round use.
We bought a plot in St. Electricity is not supplied to the site, although there is electricity in the building and the pole is located directly opposite the site.
We submitted an application for connection to the land plot on which the house is being built.
Our SNT has dacha electricity, but it is turned off in the winter. In 2020
I am a member of SNT. I use electricity from a substation that is on the balance sheet of SNT.
A private house. There are 2 electricity inputs, 2 personal accounts. When connecting to a 3-phase network, when checking the seals on old metering devices, a broken seal was discovered.
The situation is this: our mother has a plot of land with a house and she paid the chairman of the SNT for its connection to electricity and for the pole,
Energosbyt rejects the application to conclude an electricity contract for a site in SNT.
Direct connection to electrical networks
When you receive the documentation, please read it carefully. The power grid organization may include so-called excess requirements in the contract.
The most common violations of the rights of individuals occur on such items as connecting electricity up to 15 kW to the house. Individuals are required to complete a power supply project. This is an excessive requirement, according to the Town Planning Code of the Russian Federation (clause 3 of Article 48).
After signing the contract, you should begin to fulfill the technical conditions specified in the documentation.
As a rule, this is the following set of standard actions:
- — installation of a metering unit (outer wall of the house/ overhead line support);
- — installation of wires from the metering station to the border of the land plot;
- — installation of networks inside the house (if it is fully built).
Work plan
The approximate sequence of stages of electrical installation work in a private house will be as follows:
- The type of input is determined (330 V - three-phase or 220 V single-phase).
- A plan is drawn up: it is necessary to collect documents and draw up a project.
- Materials are being purchased.
- The input is carried out (it can be done either underground or by air), the meter and machine are installed in the place specified in the project.
- The shield is installed.
- The cable is laid, sockets and switches are installed, then they are connected.
- Grounding is created.
- Testing is carried out and preparation for operation of the system is completed.
In each specific case, the work plan will have its own characteristics. They start by obtaining technical specifications and drawing up a project. Be sure to set the power and input type. Preparing documentation will take a lot of time, so it is recommended to start doing it along with the start of construction.
Three-phase input will be necessary if powerful equipment is used in the house: electric stoves, oven, boiler. In terms of complexity, three-phase input is superior to single-phase, which means that if there is no need, it is better to give preference to the second.
The electrification plan shows where the equipment will be located, and where the sockets will need to be installed. The location of the switches is also marked on it.
